Network Settings GUI
Ratan Gupta
ratagupt at linux.vnet.ibm.com
Fri Jun 14 20:52:02 AEST 2019
Hi Jandra,
On 13/06/19 1:01 AM, Jandra A wrote:
> Hello Ratan,
>
> Are you proposing that filter to be done at gui side? Suppose at
> first boot, By default DHCP and Zero config is enabled, In that
> case back end will get two IP address (DHCP/ZeroConfig) and
> suppose after that user has not disabled the Zeroconfig than GUI
> will keep getting the two ipaddresses, in that case does the GUI
> apply the filter to show single IP address.
>
> No filter on GUI side - In the case you are describing where by
> default DHCP and zeroconfig are enabled and the user has not disabled
> the zero config, the GUI will still show both. At any time, an
> interface will have MAXIMUM two IP addresses, but one of those two
> must be from zero config. The GUI should always reflect what is in the
> backend, it will not be a good experience if we hide information from
> users.
>
Then it should be good,Until some body comes and ask from us.
>
>
> Are we planning to propose new settings for GUI for IPv6.
> In IpV6 we may have multiple IPaddresses on the same interface
> (LinkLocal,autoconf,static)
>
> As of now, all customers we have spoken with have said they do not
> currently use IPV6 and have no plans to do so in the future, so this
> was put on hold. If/when we choose to support IPV6, the design will be
> updated to reflect it. Likely, it will be a very similar design with
> the addition of an IPV6 section containing its own DNS servers and IP
> addresses.
>
>
Is the GUI specific for IBM, if not then I know google is planning to
support the IPv6 and the gui should be at par with other available
stack(AMI/ATEN).
>
> What about the existing client network deployment where management
> traffic has been separated from the host traffic through VLAN?
> We got this request from one of our IBM Internal team(HPC)
>
> I would love to know more about this as it is the first time I hear
> where the requirement came from. Once we understand the use case for
> it and the user needs, we can discuss prioritizing it for the GUI.
>
>
Please ping Victor Hu from IBM(HPC), I have seen the AMI as well as the
SuperMicro(ATEN) stack, they are supporting it.
> Regards,
>
> Jandra A
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 10:10 PM Ratan Gupta
> <ratagupt at linux.vnet.ibm.com <mailto:ratagupt at linux.vnet.ibm.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi Jandra,
>
> Please find my comments inline ingreen.
>
> Regards
>
> Ratan Gupta
>
> On 10/06/19 8:53 PM, Jandra A wrote:
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Here is the proposal for the Network Settings GUI:
>> https://ibm.invisionapp.com/share/8ENYRVXAPFD#/319115961_Physical
>> To navigate, click on any flashing blue rectangles or use the
>> right and left keyboard arrows.
>>
>> The design is based on the needs found by our research with
>> stakeholders and users.
>>
>> With the GUI, a user is able to assign a Fully Qualified Domain
>> Name (FQDN), and choose either DHCP or static configuration, for
>> any selected interface.
>>
>> If DHCP is chosen, the GUI will reflect the appropriate default
>> gateway, DNS server, and IP address assigned by the DHCP server.
>> If static is selected, users manually assign the default gateway,
>> as well as multiple DNS servers and a single IP address (not
>> including the one assigned by zeroconf).
>>
>> Despite the type of configuration selected (DHCP or static),
>> zero-configuration is always on to protect the user and ensure
>> there is always an IP address assigned. However, once an
>> interface has a non zeroconf IP address assigned, users have the
>> flexibility to permanently delete that address. Currently, users
>> can only temporarily delete these using CLI; once they reboot,
>> the addresses come back. Permanently removing IP addresses
>> assigned by zero-configuration is important to customers who need
>> to account for every single IP address.
>
> Are you proposing that filter to be done at gui side? Suppose at
> first boot, By default DHCP and Zero config is enabled, In that
> case back end will get two IP address
>
> (DHCP/ZeroConfig) and suppose after that user has not disabled the
> Zeroconfig than GUI will keep getting the two ipaddresses, in that
> case does the GUI apply the filter
>
> to show single IP address.
>
> Are we planning to propose new settings for GUI for IPv6
>
> In IpV6 we may have multiple IPaddresses on the same interface
> (LinkLocal,autoconf,static)
>
>>
>>
>> NOTE: The reason for limiting to a single IP address per
>> interface is that our research from users and stakeholders
>> indicates that multiple would never be used and in fact it could
>> make it easy to make a mistake, so for this reason we will not
>> support it in the GUI. Additionally, there will be no support for
>> VLAN as it was not expected by users and added unnecessary
>> confusion.
>
> What about the existing client network deployment where management
> traffic has been separated from the host traffic through VLAN?
>
> We got this request from one of our IBM Internal team(HPC).
>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jandra Aranguren
>>
>>
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