Network Settings GUI

Ratan Gupta ratagupt at linux.vnet.ibm.com
Fri Jun 14 20:52:02 AEST 2019


Hi Jandra,

On 13/06/19 1:01 AM, Jandra A wrote:
> Hello Ratan,
>
>     Are you proposing that filter to be done at gui side? Suppose at
>     first boot, By default DHCP and  Zero config is enabled, In that
>     case back end will get two IP address (DHCP/ZeroConfig) and
>     suppose after that user has not disabled the Zeroconfig than GUI
>     will keep getting the two ipaddresses, in that case does the GUI
>     apply the filter to show single IP address.
>
> No filter on GUI side - In the case you are describing where by 
> default DHCP and zeroconfig are enabled and the user has not disabled 
> the zero config, the GUI will still show both. At any time, an 
> interface will have MAXIMUM two IP addresses, but one of those two 
> must be from zero config. The GUI should always reflect what is in the 
> backend, it will not be a good experience if we hide information from 
> users.
>
Then it should be good,Until some body comes and ask from us.
>
>
>     Are we planning to propose new settings for GUI for IPv6.
>     In IpV6 we may have multiple IPaddresses on the same interface
>     (LinkLocal,autoconf,static)
>
> As of now, all customers we have spoken with have said they do not 
> currently use IPV6 and have no plans to do so in the future, so this 
> was put on hold. If/when we choose to support IPV6, the design will be 
> updated to reflect it. Likely, it will be a very similar design with 
> the addition of an IPV6 section containing its own DNS servers and IP 
> addresses.
>
>
Is the GUI specific for IBM, if not then I know google is planning to 
support the IPv6 and the gui should be at par with other available 
stack(AMI/ATEN).
>
>     What about the existing client network deployment where management
>     traffic has been separated from the host traffic through VLAN?
>     We got this request from one of our IBM Internal team(HPC)
>
> I would love to know more about this as it is the first time I hear 
> where the requirement came from. Once we understand the use case for 
> it and the user needs, we can discuss prioritizing it for the GUI.
>
>
Please ping Victor Hu from IBM(HPC), I have seen the AMI as well as the 
SuperMicro(ATEN) stack, they are supporting it.

> Regards,
>
> Jandra A
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 10:10 PM Ratan Gupta 
> <ratagupt at linux.vnet.ibm.com <mailto:ratagupt at linux.vnet.ibm.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Jandra,
>
>     Please find my comments inline ingreen.
>
>     Regards
>
>     Ratan Gupta
>
>     On 10/06/19 8:53 PM, Jandra A wrote:
>>     Hello all,
>>
>>     Here is the proposal for the Network Settings GUI:
>>     https://ibm.invisionapp.com/share/8ENYRVXAPFD#/319115961_Physical
>>     To navigate, click on any flashing blue rectangles or use the
>>     right and left keyboard arrows.
>>
>>     The design is based on the needs found by our research with
>>     stakeholders and users.
>>
>>     With the GUI, a user is able to assign a Fully Qualified Domain
>>     Name (FQDN), and choose either DHCP or static configuration, for
>>     any selected interface.
>>
>>     If DHCP is chosen, the GUI will reflect the appropriate default
>>     gateway, DNS server, and IP address assigned by the DHCP server.
>>     If static is selected, users manually assign the default gateway,
>>     as well as multiple DNS servers and a single IP address (not
>>     including the one assigned by zeroconf).
>>
>>     Despite the type of configuration selected (DHCP or static),
>>     zero-configuration is always on to protect the user and ensure
>>     there is always an IP address assigned. However, once an
>>     interface has a non zeroconf IP address assigned, users have the
>>     flexibility to permanently delete that address. Currently, users
>>     can only temporarily delete these using CLI; once they reboot,
>>     the addresses come back. Permanently removing IP addresses
>>     assigned by zero-configuration is important to customers who need
>>     to account for every single IP address.
>
>     Are you proposing that filter to be done at gui side? Suppose at
>     first boot, By default DHCP and  Zero config is enabled, In that
>     case back end will get two IP address
>
>     (DHCP/ZeroConfig) and suppose after that user has not disabled the
>     Zeroconfig than GUI will keep getting the two ipaddresses, in that
>     case does the GUI apply the filter
>
>     to show single IP address.
>
>     Are we planning to propose new settings for GUI for IPv6
>
>     In IpV6 we may have multiple IPaddresses on the same interface
>     (LinkLocal,autoconf,static)
>
>>
>>
>>     NOTE: The reason for limiting to a single IP address per
>>     interface is that our research from users and stakeholders
>>     indicates that multiple would never be used and in fact it could
>>     make it easy to make a mistake, so for this reason we will not
>>     support it in the GUI. Additionally, there will be no support for
>>     VLAN as it was not expected by users and added unnecessary
>>     confusion.
>
>     What about the existing client network deployment where management
>     traffic has been separated from the host traffic through VLAN?
>
>     We got this request from one of our IBM Internal team(HPC).
>
>>
>>     Regards,
>>     Jandra Aranguren
>>
>>
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