Initial MCTP design proposal
nilan.naidoo at intel.com
Fri Dec 7 15:15:40 AEDT 2018
Thanks for making a start on this. I generally agree with the architecture. I was thinking along similar lines that we would have a MCTP daemon that implements the features described in the MCTP base specification, and would provide bindings to hardware interfaces on lower interface and bindings to various messaging services on its upper interface. I also like that idea that it is portable an can be easily adapted to other runtime environments.
As far as the features that need to be supported, we are initially interested in PCIe VDM and SMBus/I2C hardware bindings. The BMC will also need to be the Bus owner for the interfaces. It is not clear to be yet if we would also need bridging for our initial use cases. The message types that we need to support are NVMe-SI, PLDM and Vendor Defined - PCI (0x7E). We currently don't have a strong need for supporting the host interface.
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Subject: Initial MCTP design proposal
In an earlier thread, I promised to sketch out a design for a MCTP implementation in OpenBMC, and I've included it below.
This is roughly in the OpenBMC design document format (thanks for the reminder Andrew), but I've sent it to the list for initial review before proposing to gerrit - mainly because there were a lot of folks who expressed interest on the list. I suggest we move to gerrit once we get specific feedback coming in. Let me know if you have general comments whenever you like though.
In parallel, I've been developing a prototype for the MCTP library mentioned below, including a serial transport binding. I'll push to github soon and post a link, once I have it in a slightly-more-consumable form.
# Host/BMC communication channel: MCTP & PLDM
Author: Jeremy Kerr <jk at ozlabs.org> <jk>
## Problem Description
Currently, we have a few different methods of communication between host and BMC. This is primarily IPMI-based, but also includes a few hardware-specific side-channels, like hiomap. On OpenPOWER hardware at least, we've definitely started to hit some of the limitations of IPMI (for example, we have need for >255 sensors), as well as the hardware channels that IPMI typically uses.
This design aims to use the Management Component Transport Protocol
(MCTP) to provide a common transport layer over the multiple channels that OpenBMC platforms provide. Then, on top of MCTP, we have the opportunity to move to newer host/BMC messaging protocols to overcome some of the limitations we've encountered with IPMI.
## Background and References
Separating the "transport" and "messaging protocol" parts of the current stack allows us to design these parts separately. Currently, IPMI defines both of these; we currently have BT and KCS (both defined as part of the IPMI 2.0 standard) as the transports, and IPMI itself as the messaging protocol.
Some efforts of improving the hardware transport mechanism of IPMI have been attempted, but not in a cross-implementation manner so far. This does not address some of the limitations of the IPMI data model.
MCTP defines a standard transport protocol, plus a number of separate hardware bindings for the actual transport of MCTP packets. These are defined by the DMTF's Platform Management Working group; standards are available at:
I have included a small diagram of how these standards may fit together in an OpenBMC system. The DSP numbers there are references to DMTF standards.
One of the key concepts here is that separation of transport protocol from the hardware bindings; this means that an MCTP "stack" may be using either a I2C, PCI, Serial or custom hardware channel, without the higher layers of that stack needing to be aware of the hardware implementation.
These higher levels only need to be aware that they are communicating with a certain entity, defined by an Entity ID (MCTP EID).
I've mainly focussed on the "transport" part of the design here. While this does enable new messaging protocols (mainly PLDM), I haven't covered that much; we will propose those details for a separate design effort.
As part of the design, I have referred to MCTP "messages" and "packets"; this is intentional, to match the definitions in the MCTP standard. MCTP messages are the higher-level data transferred between MCTP endpoints, which packets are typically smaller, and are what is sent over the hardware. Messages that are larger than the hardware MTU are split into individual packets by the transmit implementation, and reassembled at the receive implementation.
A final important point is that this design is for the host <--> BMC channel *only*. Even if we do replace IPMI for the host interface, we will certainly need an IPMI interface available for external system management.
Any channel between host and BMC should:
- Have a simple serialisation and deserialisation format, to enable
implementations in host firmware, which have widely varying runtime
- Allow different hardware channels, as we have a wide variety of
target platforms for OpenBMC
- Be usable over simple hardware implementations, but have a facility
for higher bandwidth messaging on platforms that require it.
- Ideally, integrate with newer messaging protocols
## Proposed Design
The MCTP core specification just provides the packetisation, routing and addressing mechanisms. The actual transmit/receive of those packets is up to the hardware binding of the MCTP transport.
For OpenBMC, we would introduce an MCTP daemon, which implements the transport over a configurable hardware channel (eg., Serial UART, I2C or PCI). This daemon is responsible for the packetisation and routing of MCTP messages to and from host firmware.
I see two options for the "inbound" or "application" interface of the MCTP daemon:
- it could handle upper parts of the stack (eg PLDM) directly, through
in-process handlers that register for certain MCTP message types; or
- it could channel raw MCTP messages (reassembled from MCTP packets) to
DBUS messages (similar to the current IPMI host daemons), where the
upper layers receive and act on those DBUS events.
I have a preference for the former, but I would be interested to hear from the IPMI folks about how the latter structure has worked in the past.
The proposed implementation here is to produce an MCTP "library" which provides the packetisation and routing functions, between:
- an "upper" messaging transmit/receive interface, for tx/rx of a full
message to a specific endpoint
- a "lower" hardware binding for transmit/receive of individual
packets, providing a method for the core to tx/rx each packet to
The lower interface would be plugged in to one of a number of hardware-specific binding implementations (most of which would be included in the library source tree, but others can be plugged-in too)
The reason for a library is to allow the same MCTP implementation to be used in both OpenBMC and host firmware; the library should be bidirectional. To allow this, the library would be written in portable C (structured in a way that can be compiled as "extern C" in C++ codebases), and be able to be configured to suit those runtime environments (for example, POSIX IO may not be available on all platforms; we should be able to compile the library to suit). The licence for the library should also allow this re-use; I'd suggest a dual Apache & GPL licence.
As for the hardware bindings, we would want to implement a serial transport binding first, to allow easy prototyping in simulation. For OpenPOWER, we'd want to implement a "raw LPC" binding for better performance, and later PCIe for large transfers. I imagine that there is a need for an I2C binding implementation for other hardware platforms too.
Lastly, I don't want to exclude any currently-used interfaces by implementing MCTP - this should be an optional component of OpenBMC, and not require platforms to implement it.
## Alternatives Considered
There have been two main alternatives to this approach:
Continue using IPMI, but start making more use of OEM extensions to suit the requirements of new platforms. However, given that the IPMI standard is no longer under active development, we would likely end up with a large amount of platform-specific customisations. This also does not solve the hardware channel issues in a standard manner.
Redfish between host and BMC. This would mean that host firmware needs a HTTP client, a TCP/IP stack, a JSON (de)serialiser, and support for Redfish schema. This is not feasible for all host firmware implementations; certainly not for OpenPOWER. It's possible that we could run a simplified Redfish stack - indeed, MCTP has a proposal for a Redfish-over-MCTP protocol, which uses simplified serialisation and no requirement on HTTP. However, this still introduces a large amount of complexity in host firmware.
Development would be required to implement the MCTP transport, plus any new users of the MCTP messaging (eg, a PLDM implementation). These would somewhat duplicate the work we have in IPMI handlers.
We'd want to keep IPMI running in parallel, so the "upgrade" path should be fairly straightforward.
Design and development needs to involve potential host firmware implementations.
For the core MCTP library, we are able to run tests there in complete isolation (I have already been able to run a prototype MCTP stack through the afl fuzzer) to ensure that the core transport protocol works.
For MCTP hardware bindings, we would develop channel-specific tests that would be run in CI on both host and BMC.
For the OpenBMC MCTP daemon implementation, testing models would depend on the structure we adopt in the design section.
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