RFE: use patchwork to submit a patch

Eric Wong e at 80x24.org
Mon Oct 14 10:39:30 AEDT 2019

Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin at linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 09:23:08PM +0000, Eric Wong wrote:
> > > (This is the same reason I generally disagree with Eric Wong about
> > > preserving SMTP as the primary transmission protocol -- I've heard lots of
> > > complaints both from kernel developers and especially from people trying to
> > > contribute to CAF about corporate policies actually making it impossible to
> > > submit patches -- and no, using a different mail server is not a possibility
> > > for them because it can be a firing offense under their IT AUP rules.)
> > 
> > I'm not opposed to a webmail interface tailored to kernel hacking
> > which does stuff like checkpatch.pl and get_maintainer.pl before
> > sending (similar to your patchwork proposal and
> > gitgadgetgadget).  That would get around security appliances
> > but SMTP would still be used in the background.
> > 
> > Or offer full-blown HTTPS webmail + IMAP + SMTP access like any
> > other webmail provider + checkpatch + get_maintainer helpers.
> Well, this is the bit where I say that it may not be allowed by corporate
> rules. I see this all the time in CAF/Android world where companies
> *require* that all email goes through their SMTP server so that it can be
> properly logged (often for legal reasons). And it is often equally required
> that any code submissions come from person at corporate.com and not
> person at free-email-provider.com for License/CLA reasons, so setting up a
> webmail server is not a solution either.

Aren't they still allowed to submit stuff via forges the same way
they'd use a potential hacker-oriented webmail/SMTP/IMAP solution?

Sometimes I see @username_COMPANY-type names on forges, but
AFAIK it's not very common.

> This is basically why SMTP sucks in my view -- and it's worthless trying to
> pick fights with IT departments, because they are told to do so by lawyers.
> So, I want to take SMTP out of the equation:

If the open source community can fight to get GPL accepted, I
don't see why we can't fight or subvert dumb corporate policies.

> 1. provide a way for someone to submit a patch using a web interface   (but
> still in a way that From: is their corporate ID)
> 2. use individual git feeds as a way to send out patches instead of   always
> being secondary to SMTP

username-COMPANY at users.kernel.org could probably work if they're
required to use @username_COMPANY on forges.

We can also find creative ways to subvert corporate policies:
For example; if their policy specifically prevents outgoing SMTP,
"git imap-send" could be used.

If their policy forbids using external "email" services, we'd
name it "Kernel Hackers' Messaging System" or something of that
sort and say we use an email bridge :>

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