8360E - PCI / DTC Blob Setup

Kumar Gala galak at kernel.crashing.org
Sat Feb 3 02:48:56 EST 2007


On Feb 2, 2007, at 7:36 AM, Russell McGuire wrote:

>
> Well I am getting smarter on this:
>
> I have read through the PCI Bridge Specs and found another issue  
> that might
> have been causing a problem with the IDSEL lines. Unless you are  
> interested
> I'll forgo that explanation and just go with fact that I have  
> changed the
> IDSEL mappings to be legal when they are issued from the 83xx.
>
> I have changed the IDSELs to be as follows, does this look correct?

Not sure, I'm a little confused as to how exactly things are wired on  
your board.  It would seem like you have 2 P2P bridges connected to  
the processor.  Behind one bridge is 2 slots and behind the second is  
1 slot?

> I agree with placing the NODE for the bridge into the dts file to be
> correct. Except I get stuck immediately at trying to come up with an
> address. I.e. the PCI host has a PCI at 8500, which makes sense. But  
> the Bridge
> chip doesn't have a mapped address to place in the file. I did read  
> the PCI
> OF node spec <dated 1996> it hints that PCI-PCI bridges are  
> essentially the
> same domain and may not need translation.
>
> Another concern I have now is that the interrupt mask may be  
> incorrect.
> i.e. currently it is <f800 0 0 7>, should I change this to <3f800 0  
> 0 7>
> since I am using an extra 2 bits to indicate bus? This would make  
> sense if
> the ((Bus << 16) | Dev << 11))

Yes that makes sense.

>
>>> Bus 1, Slot 1, (Bridge IDSEL = AD27 mapped to IDSEL AD11 on host)
>> 15800 0 0 1 700 14 8 //Int A always to IRQ 20
>> 15800 0 0 2 700 15 8 //Int B always to IRQ 21
>> 15800 0 0 3 700 16 8 //Int C always to IRQ 22
>> 15800 0 0 4 700 17 8 //Int D always to IRQ 23
>>> Bus 1, Slot 2, (Bridge IDSEL = AD30 mapped to IDSEL AD13 on host)
>> 17000 0 0 1 700 14 8
>> 17000 0 0 2 700 15 8
>> 17000 0 0 3 700 16 8
>> 17000 0 0 4 700 17 8
>>> Bus 2, Slot 1, (Bridge IDSEL = AD27 mapped to IDSEL AD11 on host)
>> 25800 0 0 1 700 14 8
>> 25800 0 0 2 700 15 8
>> 25800 0 0 3 700 16 8
>> 25800 0 0 4 700 17 8
>
> These IDSEL mappings seem to match exactly what U-boot will report
> i.e. Bus.Dev = 1.0b, 1.0e, 2.0b.
>
> I have not placed any reference to the Bridge chip's IDSEL line,  
> since it
> cannot activate any IRQ lines directly. Well try it both ways  
> perhaps and
> see what happens.
>
> The good news is with this configuration, the ca0106 driver will  
> load. I can
> get all the way into linux, and see the associated creations under the
> /proc/ file system. To me all this really proves to me is that the IRQ
> hasn't been toggled. Now I have to figure out how to get the /dev/dsp
> devices in the /dev directory. If ALSA still uses this, I am used  
> to OSS.
>
> I am trying a PCI USB 2.0 card now, with various drivers and  
> devices plugged
> in I get varying results from 'try irqpoll' to boot hanging. Not  
> sure if
> this is an IRQ problem or a another related PCI bug.
>
> What fun this is.
>
> -Russ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kumar Gala [mailto:galak at kernel.crashing.org]
> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 10:21 PM
> To: rmcguire at videopresence.com
> Cc: linuxppc-embedded at ozlabs.org ((((E-Mail)))); Benjamin  
> Herrenschmidt
> Subject: Re: 8360E - PCI / DTC Blob Setup
>
>
> On Feb 1, 2007, at 8:49 PM, Russell McGuire wrote:
>
>> Kumar,
>>
>> THANK you, for pointing me in the right direction. I might have
>> scratched my
>> head another 10 years finding this bug. And an apology for thinking
>> I had a
>> software issue, when it was a hardware issue.
>
> No problem, this pretty much comes out of the PCI OF spec, but it
> takes a while to grok how we actually use it.
>
>> This is helping me greatly, all the while I had this sinking
>> feeling, like I
>> didn't route any 'incoming' interrupt lines to the CPU. Something
>> about the
>> 8360 being able to get configured as an agent device, so I over
>> looked the
>> use of the INTA pin on the CPU as incoming vs outgoing.
>>
>> SO it would seem I didn't have ANY incoming pins, and thus the
>> IRQ4-7 pins
>> that occur in the 8360E-MDS board were floating on my board. So as
>> soon as
>> the sound driver enabled the interrupt, it was low all the time.
>
> That would definitely be a HW issue :)
>
>>> <HOST IRQ specifier> (on 83xx):>
>>>
>>> [linux,phandle for interrupt controller] [IRQ #] [sense]
>>
>> I assume all these numbers are in HEX, So 0x14, 0x 15, 0x 16, 0x 17
>> would
>> correspond to external IRQ4-7 in the MPC8360E. I will wire this up
>> and give
>> it a shot, guess it works better when they are connected.
>
> Yeah all numbers are hex, I forget if you can put a leading 0x or
> not.. its kinda annoying.
>
>>> <PCI DEV specifier>:
>>>
>>> [(bus << 16) | (idsel << 11)] 0 0
>>
>> Well I think this is definitely part of my problem.
>> So I am mapping interrupts from bus 1 and 2, I would need something
>> like?
>
> Truthfully you should probably have child nodes that describe the
> bridges and have their interrupt mappings described there.
>
> The code is going to end up using the Bus #, IDSEL for the pci device
> to try and determine the CPU ext interrupt its mapped to.
>
> Unfortunately, we don't really have an example of this.
>
>> Alternating the 14,15,16,17 to make a 'load-balanced' mapping? Are
>> the bus
>
> not following the question.
>
>>
>>> Bus 1, Slot 1, IDSEL = AD20
>> 1a000 0 0 1 700 14 8
>> 1a000 0 0 1 700 15 8
>> 1a000 0 0 1 700 16 8
>> 1a000 0 0 1 700 17 8
>>> Bus 1, Slot 2, IDSEL = AD24
>> 1c000 0 0 1 700 15 8
>> 1c000 0 0 1 700 16 8
>> 1c000 0 0 1 700 17 8
>> 1c000 0 0 1 700 18 8
>>> Bus 2, Slot 1, IDSEL = AD20
>> 2a000 0 0 1 700 16 8
>> 2a000 0 0 1 700 17 8
>> 2a000 0 0 1 700 18 8
>> 2a000 0 0 1 700 19 8
>>
>> -Russ
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kumar Gala [mailto:galak at kernel.crashing.org]
>> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 10:11 AM
>> To: rmcguire at videopresence.com
>> Cc: linuxppc-embedded at ozlabs.org
>> Subject: Re: 8360E - PCI / DTC Blob Setup
>>
>>
>> On Feb 1, 2007, at 11:48 AM, Russell McGuire wrote:
>>
>>> This might be the wrong forum to discuss HW routing, but I am not
>>> sure of
>>> many HW guys that would understand blob setups. I know I still  
>>> don't.
>>>
>>> I read through the booting-without-of-tree.txt and it doesn't
>>> explain this
>>> other than the interrupt routing needs to be present. Perhaps some
>>> of the
>>> maintainers of the 83xx platforms can explain how this blob is
>>> developed?
>>> I assume their board work with the submitted mp38360emds.dts files,
>>> as an
>>> example.
>>>
>>> Let me see if I can simplify this, I had this schematic reviewed by
>>> Pericom
>>> <a PCI bridge MFG> and they recommended these IDSEL lines. And I
>>> know the
>>> card detection works great, in U-boot.
>>>
>>> My external PCI bridge is the only thing routed directly to the
>>> 8360 Host
>>> bridge. The PCI Host bridge in my system is connected on IDSEL-
>>>> AD25,0x19
>>> Perhaps I shouldn't use any interrupt routing for this, as there is
>>> no true
>>> /INTA line tied directly to the bridge?
>>>
>>> My Three PCI slots are routed as follows:
>>>
>>> Bus 0, Bridge Chip, IDSEL = AD25
>>
>> Huh, this is only describes one slot/connection.  If you have 3
>> slots, they'd have 3 unique IDSELs
>>
>>> Other side of the Host bridge, all are routed to INTA directly to  
>>> the
>>> CPU.
>>> Bus 1, Slot 1, IDSEL = AD20 <card would be ID'd as 1.04 (Bus.Dev)>
>>> Bus 1, Slot 2, IDSEL = AD24 <card would be ID'd as 1.08 (Bus.Dev)>
>>> Bus 2, Slot 1, IDSEL = AD20 <card would be ID'd as 2.04 (Bus.Dev)>
>>>
>>> That being said:
>>> /* IDSEL 0x19 AD25*/
>>>  c800 0 0 1 700 14 8
>>
>> so the way you read this:
>>
>> <PCI DEV specifier> <INT A-D> <HOST IRQ specifier>
>>
>> Do break it down further:
>>
>> <PCI DEV specifier>:
>>
>> [(bus << 16) | (idsel << 11)] 0 0
>>
>> <INT A-D>:
>> INTA - 1
>> INTB - 2
>> INTC - 3
>> INTD - 4
>>
>> <HOST IRQ specifier> (on 83xx):
>>
>> [linux,phandle for interrupt controller] [IRQ #] [sense]
>>
>>> I see in the c800 directly corresponds to the 83xx manual for PCI
>>> CONFIG
>>> address mapping for AD25.
>>>
>>> I think the '1' is mapped to /INTA, which is the only PCI INT
>>> available in
>>> the 8360E.
>>
>> INTA..INTD is more about the device, not host.
>>
>>> I understand the 700 in this case is the address of the PIC at 700.
>>>
>>> That leaves 5 fields/questions.
>>> 1) What do the first two '0's after c800 mean?
>>
>> There always 0 0, since the int masks them away (they normally
>> describe the address the device is at)
>>
>>> 2) What does the '14' map to?
>>
>> 0x14 is the external IRQ # its wired to.
>>
>>> 3) What does the '8' map to?
>>
>> Sense of IRQ, should always be level for PCI.
>>
>>> 4) Why would some boards map multiple interrupts to a single IDSEL,
>>> like the
>>> mpc8360emds.dts file? Is this to handle extra bridges that might be
>>> plugged
>>> in at a later time?
>>
>> This is to handle the fact that a PCI add on card put into a slot
>> might use multiple interrupts (INTA, INTB), so it lists multiple
>> entries to cover the 4 PCI defined interrupts.
>>
>>> If I understand the mapping correctly then I think I can hard code
>>> in the
>>> interrupts for the PCI slots.
>>>
>>> So I don't drive everybody nuts, is there actual documentation on
>>> this. I
>>> would be happy to stop spamming this list... :-)
>>
>> There is, but its scattered in places.
>>
>> Its good to ask these questions so the answers will get archived and
>> other people can figure it out as well.
>>
>> - k
>




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