Continual reading from the PowerPc time base register is not stable
Benjamin Herrenschmidt
benh at kernel.crashing.org
Fri Mar 26 07:38:44 EST 2010
On Thu, 2010-03-25 at 23:00 +0800, Csdncannon wrote:
> I am really sorry that the previously attached code is wrong, this one
> "timebase.c" is the right one, and the "log_timebase" file is the
> right log.
>
> We are using FreeScale PowerPc 8378, kernel 2.6.28 and compiled as
> 32-bit.
And despite all those sync/isync you can still observe the timebase
going backward ? That sounds scary. However, at this stage all I can
suggest is getting freescale folks to have a look, as this should really
not happen. Maybe there's some setting with that specific SoC that is
missing or similar...
Cheers,
Ben.
>
> Thanks
> Gino
>
> 2010/3/25 Arnd Bergmann <arnd at arndb.de>
> On Thursday 25 March 2010, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> > On Thu, 2010-03-25 at 10:41 +0800, Csdncannon wrote:
> > > In my program, the value of the 64-bit time base
> register is
> > > read out, and you will find the later value is even
> smaller than the
> > > earlier value from the log “log_timebase”. While the
> kernel depends on
> > > the accuracy of the timebase for the compensation of the
> lost PIT
> > > interrupt, the negative value between two continual
> timebase reading
> > > will bring to the jump of the jiffies. And this timebase
> problem will
> > > bring to the instability of the gettimeofday system call.
> > >
> > > Do you have any idea about this problem, thanks
> for your any
> > > advice. Attached is the code and log.
> >
> > This is a concern, it should definitely not happen. What
> machine is
> > that ? is the code compiled 32-bit or 64-bit ? What kernel
> version ?
> >
> > Arnd, any chance that could relate to the bug you've been
> chasing on
> > Cell ?
>
>
> We're still busy with the problem analysis on Cell, waiting
> for a time
> slot to run the next test kernel. So far it seems like the
> timebase
> is actually synchronized at a significant accuracy on QS22 to
> never
> cause this problem with correct code, however it is possible
> to
> observe incorrect timebase values on Cell whenever the mftb
> instruction
> is not serialized with memory accesses, e.g. by using an isync
> in front
> of the mftb. On Power6 and other CPUs, that problem will not
> happen.
>
> Arnd
>
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