pci error recovery procedure
Linas Vepstas
linas at austin.ibm.com
Thu Sep 7 06:39:39 EST 2006
On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 10:04:31AM +0800, Zhang, Yanmin wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-09-06 at 03:17, Linas Vepstas wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 04, 2006 at 01:47:30PM +0800, Zhang, Yanmin wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Again, consider the multi-function cards. On pSeries, I can only enable
> > > > DMA on a per-slot basis, not a per-function basis. So if one driver
> > > > enables DMA before some other driver has reset appropriately, everything
> > > > breaks.
> > > Does here 'reset' mean hardware slot reset?
> >
> > I should have said: If one driver of a multi-function card enables DMA before
> > another driver has stabilized its harware, then everything breaks.
> What's another driver's hardware? A function of the previous multi-function
> card? Or a function of another device?
Yes. Either. Both. Doesn't matter. Enabling DMA is "granular" at a
different size scale than pci functions, and possibly even pci devices
or slots, dependeing on the architecture. Before DMA can be enabled,
*all* affected device drivers have to be approve, and have to be ready
for it.
> > If we enabled both DMA and MMIO at the same time, there are many cases
> > where the card will immediately trap again -- for example, if its
> > DMA'ing to some crazy address. Thus, typically, one wants DMA disabled
> > until after the card reset. Without the mmio_enabled() reset, there
> > is no way of doing this.
>
> Did you asume the card reset is executed by callback mmio_enabled?
I am assuming that, when a driver receives the mmio_enabled() callback,
it will perform some sort of register i/o. For example, I am currently
planning to modify the e1000 driver to do the following:
-- The error_occurred() callback returns PCI_ERS_RESULT_CAN_RECOVER
-- The arch enables mmio, and then calls the mmio_enabled() callback.
-- The mmio_enabled() callback in the driver takes a full dump of all
of the regsters on the card. It then returns PCI_ERS_RESULT_NEED_RESET
-- The arch performs the full electrical #RST of device. Recovery from
this point proceeds as before.
> > Again, consider the multi-function cards. On pSeries, I can only enable
> > DMA on a per-slot basis, not a per-function basis. So if one driver
> > enables DMA before some other driver has reset appropriately, everything
> > breaks.
>
> What does 'I' above stand for? The platform error recovery procedure
Yes. The pSeries platform error recovery procedure can only enable DMA
on a per-slot basis.
> I guess it means platform, that is,
> only platform enables DMA for the whole slot.
Yes.
> But why does the last sentence
> become driver enables DMA?
In your proposal, you were suggesting that MMIO and DMA be enabled with
one and the same routine, and I was attempting to explain why that can't
work.
> Could driver enable DMA for a function?
No, not on pSeries hardware.
> > > If mmio_enabled is not used currently, I think we could delete it firstly. Later on,
> > > if a platform really need it, we could add it, so we could keep the simplied codes.
> >
> > It would be very difficult to add it later. And it would be especially
> > silly, given that someone would find this discussion in the mailing list
> > archives.
> You stick to keep mmio_enabled which is not used currently, but if there will be
> a new platform who uses a more fine-grained steps to recover pci/pci-e, would
> you say 'it would be very difficut' and refuse add new callbacks?
Yes.
> It doesn't prevent software from merging some steps. And, we want
> to implement pci/pci-e error recovery for more platforms instead of just
> pSeries.
Yes. The API was designed so that it could be supported on every
current and future platform we could think of. You haven't yet
claimed that "pci-e can't be supported". Based on what
I understand, changing the API wouldn't make the implementation
any easier. (It is very easy to call a callback, and then
examine its return value. Removing a few callbacks does not
materially simplify the recovery mechanism. Managing these
callbacks is *not* the hard part of implementing this thing.)
--linas
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