[RFC] dt/platform: Use cell-index for device naming if available
Grant Likely
grant.likely at secretlab.ca
Wed Nov 21 03:19:57 EST 2012
On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 19:29:09 -0800, Stepan Moskovchenko <stepanm at codeaurora.org> wrote:
> On 11/15/2012 8:10 AM, Grant Likely wrote:
> > On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 18:48:43 -0800, Stepan Moskovchenko <stepanm at codeaurora.org> wrote:
> >
> > Well, why exactly do you want to control the names of devices? Is it so
> > that devices match up with what they are, or is it to make things match
> > up with things like clocks and regulators. If it is the latter, then no,
> > don't do this. Use auxdata. When the kernel requires a specific name for
> > a device it is very much a kernel *internal* detail. It does not make
> > sense to encode that into the device tree when it isn't something part
> > of the binding.
>
> Hi Grant,
> I realize that auxdata is the correct thing to use for keeping the
> kernel happy (for things like clocks and regulator consumers) but this
> is not the problem I am trying to solve. My goal is to try to keep
> userspace happy by trying to create common and predictable names for
> functionally equivalent devices across different hardware platforms.
> For instance, two similar SoCs may have an SDCC controller which may be
> logically referred to as "the first SDCC device", though the physical
> address of this device may be different on the two SoCs. And, due to the
> <reg>.<name> naming convention, the sysfs entries associated with a
> particular device will be a dependent on the physical address of the device.
>
> If userspace wants to touch the sysfs entries of what can logically be
> described as "the first SDCC device", then userspace needs to know the
> physical address of this device on each SoC variant it may be running
> on, since the path to the sysfs entries for this device will be based on
> the physical address of the device. By using a device naming scheme that
> replaces the physical address with a logical device number, the
> userspace-facing interface for each device (such as sysfs entries) could
> be kept common across SoC variants even when device physical addresses
> can move around but devices still have the same logical assignments.
Okay, so the thinking is that if the generated name of a device can be
manipulated, say as 'serial0', then userspace can easily find the
device. Correct? If so, then be careful. Userspace is not supposed to
ever rely on a particular path to a device. Instead, userspace is
supposed to wait for a uevent to announce a device's existence, and then
use the data in the uevent attribute.
We /could/ use a device tree alias to manipulate the name of the device,
but as several people have pointed out there can be more than one alias
to a node. Which one do we use? I know I suggested using aliases a
couple of weeks ago, but I now think it is a bad idea after mulling it
over a bit.
What if instead we added something like OF_ALIASES to the uevent
attribute? Then userspace would have access to all the aliases for a
device. Heck, even a shell script can parse the uevent attribute. There
is also precedence for exporting OF data using a uevent. This is from
the versatile device tree support:
# cat /sys/devices/amba.0/uevent
OF_NAME=amba
OF_FULLNAME=/amba
OF_COMPATIBLE_0=arm,amba-bus
OF_COMPATIBLE_N=1
MODALIAS=of:NambaT<NULL>Carm,amba-bus
> I realize that this problem can be solved by using auxdata to set the
> device name, but in this case the only purpose of the auxdata would be
> to keep userspace happy, since all the other in-kernel relationships
> (for things like clocks and regulators) can already work without having
> to rely on auxdata. So, introducing auxdata just for consistency of
> userspace-facing names seems silly and, I am trying to come up with a
> more appropriate solution.
Yeah, auxdata is completely inappropriate for this.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Steve
>
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