[PATCH] uio/pdrv_genirq: Add OF support
Grant Likely
grant.likely at secretlab.ca
Fri Apr 1 03:25:57 EST 2011
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 11:47:04PM +1000, John Williams wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 11:23 PM, Wolfram Sang <w.sang at pengutronix.de> wrote:
> >
> >> Maybe I misunderstand you, in my view it is the responsibility of <vendor>
> >> to create their DTS files to indicate they want <special-card1> to bind to
> >> generic-uio.
> >
> > Device tree is a OS-neutral hardware description language. "generic-uio"
> > is neither OS-neutral nor a hardware description. devicetree.org has
> > more information about this.
>
> If we are trying to be pure, I might argue we are not changing the DTS
> language, but rather just add support in Linux for a particular
> use-case. There is no violation of DTS syntax.
>
> It might be *recommended* that device trees describe only hardware,
> although as Michal points out there is already precedent in the
> 'chosen' node where this is clearly violated, but in a way that is
> compatible with DTS syntax.
There are of course exceptions, particularly for passing boot
information that is OS specific. There is strong pressure to avoid it
however.
>
> Is it forbidden to have DTS descriptions of purely virtual devices, as
> would be present if you boot a DTS-driven kernel inside a VM
> environment, which provides only virtual implementations of various
> devices (ethernet etc)?
>
> 'vmware,virt-enet' or whatever?
No, it is not at all forbidden. However it needs to be anchored on a
real implementation of the virtual device. The difference with uio is
that 'uio' is a very specific description of /how/ linux interacts
with the device. It doesn't describe /what/ the interface is.
The virtio stuff is a good example because the interface is defined
indepenently of how Linux actually drives it.
So you could modify the earlier statement to say that device trees
describe only interfaces; not internal OS implementation details.
A really big problem with 'generic-uio' is that it casts a very large
net. If you add 'generic-uio' to a nodes compatible list, then it
immediately precludes any possibility of it being driven by an
in-kernel driver.
However, as already raised there is another way to skin this cat....
>
> >> Our use-case is pretty clear, in FPGA-based systems it is common to create
> >> arbitrary devices that developers just want to control from userspace,
> >> with simple IRQ and IO capabilities (DMA can come later :). �They don't
> >> need to bind to other kernel APIs or subsystems, and don't want to invest
> >> in one-off kernel drivers that simply will never go upstream.
> >
> > For that, the new_compatible-file would be suitable, I think.
>
> # echo "generic-uio" > /sys/class/uio/<something>
>
> ?
Yeah, something like that. I'd prefer something like:
"<vendor>,<hardware-name>" > /sys/bus/platform/drivers/generic-uio/compatible-hardware
That makes it the model to supplement the driver with additional
information about what devices it binds against.
>
> >> UIO is perfect, and simply tagging the device as generic-uio in the DTS is
> >> so simple, clean, and elegant.
> >
> > Simple, yes (I do understand I wrote the first approach ;)) . Elegant,
> > not really, because it breaks core conventions of the device tree. For
> > your case it is a very conveniant hack, but it is still a hack.
>
> Being useful seems like a high priority in the kernel, I'm not ashamed of it! :)
:-)
>
> Regards,
>
> John
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