<div dir="ltr"><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Hello Wim,</font></div><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div class="gmail-m_5113381275421055585WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">I don’t think it is suitable for us to co-create the GUI. We are definitely not GUI experts.</span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"><font face="verdana, sans-serif">What is important for us is that the user can access the possibilities of the BMC using the GUI. Another thing that is of importance is that the GUI is configurable. A specific implementation may not support all OpenBMC features. It should be possible to disable them in the GUI.</font></span></p></div></div></blockquote><div> </div></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif">No need to worry about not being GUI experts. We would love to work with you to better understand the things you think are important in the GUI and how you envision them working, no need to think about exactly how that translates to a GUI -- we can propose on that end. The important thing is to understand how you and users think of features and how you use them so that we can design for that. </font></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif">For example, when you say 'possibilities' and 'configurable', what are you referring to? What things do you think would need to be disabled and when? </font></div></div></blockquote><div class="gmail_quote"><div><br></div><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><br></font></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div class="gmail-m_5113381275421055585WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><u></u></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">Ideally the GUI should have a way to detect support and enable and disable the support dynamically. The possibility to do this using variables during build time is also a good alternative.</span><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></font></p></div></div></blockquote><div> </div></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Is this for what you are referring to above with some features being disabled in the GUI? </font></div></div></blockquote><div class="gmail_quote"><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif"> </font></div><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><br></font></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div class="gmail-m_5113381275421055585WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><u></u></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Basically the schedule for the boot option implementation surprises me. To me the implementation seems fairly simple and if a GUI is supported this is one of the things that is important to the user.</font></span></p></div></div></blockquote><div> </div></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Can you give more clarity on this? Are you saying the ability to do a single one-time boot for a 'next reboot' is important to the user? If so, why is it important? <span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></font></div></div></blockquote><div class="gmail_quote"><div><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><br></font></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><br></font></span></div><div><font color="#000000" face="verdana, sans-serif">Best,</font></div><div><font color="#000000" style="" face="verdana, sans-serif">Jandra A</font></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 3:26 AM Wim Vervoorn <<a href="mailto:wvervoorn@eltan.com">wvervoorn@eltan.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Hello Jandra,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">I am sorry for the late response.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">I don’t think it is suitable for us to co-create the GUI. We are definitely not GUI experts.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">What is important for us is that the user can access the possibilities of the BMC using the GUI. Another thing that is of importance is that the GUI is configurable.
A specific implementation may not support all OpenBMC features. It should be possible to disable them in the GUI.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Ideally the GUI should have a way to detect support and enable and disable the support dynamically. The possibility to do this using variables during build time
is also a good alternative.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Basically the schedule for the boot option implementation surprises me. To me the implementation seems fairly simple and if a GUI is supported this is one of
the things that is important to the user.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="NL" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Best Regards,</span><span lang="NL" style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="NL" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Wim Vervoorn<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="NL" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="NL" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Eltan B.V.</span><span lang="NL" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="NL" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Ambachtstraat 23<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">5481 SM Schijndel<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">The Netherlands<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">T : +31-(0)73-594 46 64</span><span lang="DE" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">E : <a href="mailto:wvervoorn@eltan.com" target="_blank">wvervoorn@eltan.com</a></span><span lang="DE" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">W :
<a href="http://www.eltan.com/" target="_blank">http://www.eltan.com</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">"THIS MESSAGE CONTAINS CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION. UNLESS YOU ARE THE INTENDED RECIPIENT OF THIS MESSAGE, ANY USE OF THIS MESSAGE IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED. IF YOU HAVE
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> Jandra A [mailto:<a href="mailto:jandraara@gmail.com" target="_blank">jandraara@gmail.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 20, 2019 11:33 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Wim Vervoorn <<a href="mailto:wvervoorn@eltan.com" target="_blank">wvervoorn@eltan.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:openbmc@lists.ozlabs.org" target="_blank">openbmc@lists.ozlabs.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: webui: setting Boot.Mode and Boot.Source<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hello Wim,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I believe it is scheduled for October 2019. Would you be interested in providing feedback and co-creating the GUI design? We can schedule a 30 minute conversation to review the current design proposal and talk about how it can be improved
to best meet your needs. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Regards,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Jandra Aranguren<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 6:15 AM Wim Vervoorn <<a href="mailto:wvervoorn@eltan.com" target="_blank">wvervoorn@eltan.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Hello Jandra,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Thanks for the reply. I had a look, this is exactly what I am looking for. Do you know when this is
scheduled to be included in the WebUI?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="NL" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Best Regards,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="NL" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Wim Vervoorn</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="NL" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="NL" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Eltan B.V.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="NL" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Ambachtstraat 23</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">5481 SM Schijndel</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">The Netherlands</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">T : +31-(0)73-594 46 64</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">E :
<a href="mailto:wvervoorn@eltan.com" target="_blank">wvervoorn@eltan.com</a></span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">W :
<a href="http://www.eltan.com/" target="_blank">http://www.eltan.com</a></span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">"THIS MESSAGE CONTAINS CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION. UNLESS YOU ARE THE INTENDED RECIPIENT OF THIS MESSAGE,
ANY USE OF THIS MESSAGE IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED. IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED THIS MESSAGE IN ERROR, PLEASE IMMEDIATELY NOTIFY THE SENDER BY TELEPHONE +31-(0)73-5944664 OR REPLY EMAIL, AND IMMEDIATELY DELETE THIS MESSAGE AND ALL COPIES." </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> Jandra A [mailto:<a href="mailto:jandraara@gmail.com" target="_blank">jandraara@gmail.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 7, 2019 5:27 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Wim Vervoorn <<a href="mailto:wvervoorn@eltan.com" target="_blank">wvervoorn@eltan.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:openbmc@lists.ozlabs.org" target="_blank">openbmc@lists.ozlabs.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: webui: setting Boot.Mode and Boot.Source</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hello Wim,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yes, I'm glad you ask. This is something we are currently working on so there is still some work to be done. We'd love to get your feedback to see if what you think is missing aligns
with the work we have planned, and understand what your needs would be from this functionality as a ser. You can find the current design proposals here: <a href="https://ibm.invisionapp.com/share/8ENYRVXAPFD#/319095138_1-_Boot_Options_-_System_On" target="_blank">https://ibm.invisionapp.com/share/8ENYRVXAPFD#/319095138_1-_Boot_Options_-_System_On</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Note: To leave feedback in InVision, turn on Comment mode from the bottom right hand corner of the screen and then click where you want to leave a comment. To navigate through the
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Please let us know if you have any questions and if you would like to set up some time to review this. <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Jandra Aranguren | GUI Design Team<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 7:25 AM Wim Vervoorn <<a href="mailto:wvervoorn@eltan.com" target="_blank">wvervoorn@eltan.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Currently the webui doesn’t contain the functionality to change the boot mode and boot source. Are there any plans to add this to the interface?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="NL" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Best Regards,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="NL" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Wim Vervoorn</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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